I've had many clients tell me different things about method.

Arent most of the workers older gals?

ive been told many have paid 220 average -400 high end( anal etc) to be with these im sure lovely in their own way ladies

yet you are apposed to paying 250-300 to be with a younger pretty charming girl?

what am i missing.is it their true gfe or what?
maybe we have to start massaging while doing a 1 arm hand stand

i know their no way we could ever be even 1/3 as popular as method.

low volume hi quality service and clients r best i think?

Method is like a monopoly to us providers u just cant win w them!

im happy they are doing well and i hope they continue to do so.

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Method is popular, because there is no game. No memberships, no multiple visits, and you typically are treated like a king. I've never spent more then 200 for FS there, this weekend being the first time a girl balked at the $120 tip.

In terms of price the "younger pretty charming girl" usually carries with it an attitude that looks, tease and so-called "sensuality" will make up for service. Sure it's great to be with a hot young chick, but if she's looking at her nails and the clock and asking "Are you about done yet?", kind of kills the experience.

Thats a very risky business.
not screening.
Method was busted once long ago.
the massage room was busted 3 times. because of idiotic behavior! 1 of the girls their solicited the mail man and got them in allot of trouble.
maybe the problem is that i got in the game to late. when things where simpler years ago.
The business has changed so much!

The fact that they were busted and immediately reopened should be enough of a tale. The reward was worth the risk to someone.

I would agree that the girls need to be careful, and screening can be necessary. But, how long does that coy game last? 2 sessions, 3 sessions? Is it just a tease, is there nothing going to come from it?

If I've played the game, copped some feels, made some overtures, maybe even put her hand on my junk and she's receptive, there might be a second visit, but, probably not a third. The legal issue for the girl has pretty much been resolved at that point, by me making the first move (See dismissed case vs. Perfect Touch). Anything beyond that is just a tease. If I'm looking for HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras, I'm going to be looking elsewhere at this point.

After going over the previous postings from Msggrl, I see their is a rival and she's trying to indirectly lure customers to her establishment. There is a risk in every business but one tries to keep the problems at a minimum and succeed. Derpdydoo is right, the reward is sometimes worth the risk. As I've been in this hobby for quite sometime and consider myself a veteran like Derpdydoo, we know the game and learn by "Trial and error" as we go along. Advanced hobbiest will do their homework or if there isn't anything offered through the second time around, there is no need to swing at the 3rd pitch and strikeout, so to speak.

Msggrl, you're right about the screening process as here in Calif. where I go to EMP's with HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras, there is a screening process at most of the establishments so Mamasan and the providers will be more comfortable. Sure there are some EMP's that don't do screening but it's the way they conduct business and are a greater risk of having problems down the line. The better of the enforcement of rules and screening, the safer and better the business will run. Msgrl, as for "getting into the business late", all businesses have to start somewhere and then try to build up without failing. *Remember, the most important rule to any business is customer satisfaction*. Without that, a business will not succeed. The game has never changed, only time.

Msggrl, maybe you were part of a monopoly at one time but maybe not and you want to branch out and see if you can do it on your own. Running a EMP is like any business. For Ex; If you can run a lower bid, still have the quality and enforce rules and regulations, there is no reason why you cannot run a successful business.

Apache and Derpydoo are exactly right. Method is a no nonsence and from my experience for the most part no attitude provider. This is why they are on top. Maybe not the safest approach to business but is what we are looking for. I think the whole point of this is simply to bring attention to themselves for recruitment. If as they say they have been involved for some time they should know what clients want. If they don't maybe it is because they are paying to much attention to their nails and hair. Msggrl what you are missing is that we have no time for prima dona attitudes. Your words I am young and pretty therefore pay me more. BS. Provide what they do in the manner they do and you will be compensated as such. Flirting is good and enjoyed, I happen to love it but if it is not made clear from the beginning that nothing more is going to happen, I get turned off. I've had this happen to often. Just be open as to what the session is going to be so there is not any unanswered expectations and both can enjoy for what it is.

I reread your post and this REALLY stuck out the second time I read it. Your attitude comes off clear with "in their own way?!?!".

Why would I choose a probably less experienced girl with an attitude that shes all that and then some, over an attractive lady who makes it her mission for you to leave with a smile on your face? I would probably go to Method in this case even if the price was the same, the extra 50-100 for a "younger pretty charming girl" (leaving out the attitude and baggage portion) is just laughable.

I have yet to see someone at Method that I would say was "attractive in their own way". Most of the time guys who don't know Asian women well will usually guess their age 10-15 years younger then they really are.

[quote="apache"] After going over the previous postings from Msggrl, I see their is a rival and she's trying to indirectly lure customers to her establishment.
Part one..........
yes and no.
rivals i have 0 problem with the therapist personally i do feel its not right to ruh a winky and then leave them hi and dry!

I have always been an honest person which can be very hard to find in this business. I've always said theirs no point in saying untrue statement in the end the truth will come out. Their are other MPS i do recommend and therapist. as from EM & genuine their is a lady that works their i send all my regulars too if im not available also a few other MPS and indys. I try to save people wasted time and $$ if i where a consumer so to speak i wish someone would do the same for me. I get massage 1-2 times a month. It took me 2 years to find the right therapist for me. I do understand how hard it can be to find the right therapist most people cant give a deep tissue worth a damn! or trigger.

i've said once before i wont reveal who I am if ever asked or pmed.. many places come and go in mn so eventually mine will open

its so hard to hire people. as the saying goes "no one will love your car more than you"
I think it applies well to massage business. NO one will love it as much work as hard as yourself. I know a few small massage owners who have same heart as myself but their workers unreliable...

[quote="Derpdydoo"]

I reread your post and this REALLY stuck out the second time I read it. Your attitude comes off clear with "in their own way?!?!".


I was not trying to down them.
Maybe it would have been better if i stated if you like Mature women?

I am a female ive never been to method id probably be turned down if i even tryed to go their,
They have no picture of any of their ladys( from what I know).

Only knowledge of method I do have of them is from my clients who say they are mostly 50 year old ladies (grandmas). Once in awhile a younger gal is mixed in when visiting. some will return other wont because of this fact.

I said their #1 because they are they seem to be the totally package ive only heard they are missing 2 things some of them lack youth the other are limited with english.

the only knowledge of them i have is hearsay and thats not always the best way of judging things.

I did not say I am younger and prettier.
I might be younger but my looks are average.
I have a pretty face but Method gals have better bodies!

I simply cant open and or work/ run business like method does its way to risky!

Clients refuse to be screened yet are upset they dont get extra services.

ive tried different marketing approaches and none of them work.
I cant tell you the amount of times people have made appointment showed up and said im getting a happy ending or sex upfront right.
i turn them away.
If those persons are not leo how often do average men still do this?
I just dont get it!

I even became a p411 member and not 1 person will give me their number to verify their a safe client? idk why this is to much to ask!

I do not think I have an attitude i do apologize for things coming out wrong.

in person I am a very bubbly sweet person. thats why i d ok in the business not because of my look im a good massage and genuine good personality. if i didnt care i would be asking questions!

im trying to come up with a medium where we can meet people half way.

(See dismissed case vs. Perfect Touch).

If i screen up front theirs no game involved.
Or if you the client initiates it again by placing my hand on his gentiles.
if no screening or initiation of contact then a 2nd visit.

This is how i feel safe conducting business. with their no longer be a defense of entrapment a 1 time client or tip is not worth getting arrested being help up to 72 hours going to court paying a fine as well as attny fees and or getting a gross misdemeanor following by having to go through expunge later to get it removed from record.

Msggrl, I've been to Method a few times over the years and I don't remember seeing any women in the 50-year range, just in their 20s and 30s. (Course, like Derpydoo said, unless you're very familiar with Asian women, your estimates on their ages could be off.)

I'm not a member of p411 myself, but as I understand it, that's a screening service in and of itself. If you're asking a guy for a phone number to further screen him, he might be seeing some red flags and that's why he won't return any messages from you, let alone give you a number to reach him at.

Derpydoo, what's the dismissed case v. Perfect Touch? I scanned the MN forum (probably a little too fast) and didn't see anything.

Wanderer---Forgive me, it was Peaceful Image not Perfect Touch. It had been a while, and I guess my memory isn't what it used to be.
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http://www.startribune.com/local/72691882.html?page=2&c=y

Msggrl--I don't have a fetish or a special affinity to mature women. They just tend to be more about pleasing a person instead of hooked on the notion that their looks will be sufficient. I have seen one lady who was probably in her late 40's at Method and she was quickly turned out of there. Nice enough lady, but I wouldn't have asked for her again. My experience has been quite the opposite. Most of the women there LOOK in their 20's, but a quick scan of a smile that shows some crow's feet will tell you they're really in their 30's.

I'm wondering if you might have been told about CSB. Now THOSE ladies are certainly 40+ and most don't do anything to mask it. Same time I think people go there cause these ladies are all about the FS and don't waste much time. I've only seen one there that I liked. A fellow monger once told me, "Sometimes you gotta get a bit grimey". I just can't get that grimey, sorry.

Another thing on looks vs. service. I can't speak too much from personal experience, but in looking at the TER reviews. Most of the highest rated escorts in the TC area (Maybe elsewhere too.) are typically 40+ and their pics just make me shake my head. Guys love em, give em rave reviews and are willing to spend more then the typical 200/hr rate. I can't really say I understand, cause I do like to have SOMETHING to look at. To each their own, I guess.

Derpydoo, no big with the case citation. Memory happens and all that. Thanks for the link.

A lot of the highest rated escorts in Winnipeg are more mature women, too. As with any woman, some are great to look at, others, well, not so much. But the guys always rave about the passion of the ladies, their willingness to please and their (apparent) enjoyment of the sessions and their personalities. A lot of that can really only come with experience. Nuts, one of the smartest and sexiest dancers I know is 48; I tend to enjoy hanging out and BSing with her a lot more than getting lap dances from most of her younger co-workers. (Her lap dances are something to really enjoy, too!) Add in that she's got one of those smoky voices that gets my engine revving, and I -- and my wallet -- are done for. And considering how often the guys tend to line the stage when she's up -- but not so much when many of her younger counterparts are -- and that should give you an idea just how popular she is.

Looks will get me in the door (typically, depending on the vibes I get from her ad and any reviews), but it'll always be the personality, skill, and passion that keep me coming back. But, as with everything else in life, YMMV.

I'm correcting a statement made, no offense to anybody.

the massage room was busted 1 time & then shut down via eviction.
why?
1 I was the one who gave the mailman the first massage when he first came in.

He first asked for deep tissue, I refused because most who say they want that do not have a clue of whats about to ensue I told him medium then to deep tissue is best,
he understood and went through with it anyway me being licensed I'm pretty confident I know wtf I'm doing.

2 during the session he displayed a clear exaggeration of the sensations he feels moaning n groaning while I touch him he propositioned me for several services for 25 minutes.
begging, whining that I please do it for him, when I began the deep tissue work he complains it's too hard for him to take I stopped the massage & left him in there after the 6th BBJ request.
3 he comes back when I'm not working due to my gentle scolding (hes terrified of me at this point)
gets a wet sloppy BBJ from 'veronica'(what shes well known for)
he goes and tells whole neighborhood how horribly mean I was to him by doing this
it convinced everyone he told to try me for themselves
(those who TOFTT bc of the gossip are now MY regular legitimate female clients since 2006.
I saw this coming all the signs were in plain view......
so I started My on my own & left.
I am still very good friends with the owner BTW.

RECIPE FOR AN EVENTUAL BUST:
The penn location was near Edina,
now add early 20's to mid 30's attractive & Provocatively dressed females with little to zero legitimate massage training amongst 1-2 very good CMT's on a limited schedules,
zero screening zero knowledge of other ladies via networking.
next a manager/owner that is hardly present
due to school, other job & family matters.
Put this all together in a demographic filled to the brim of Older mid-40's to 60's busy bodies including independent strictly therapeutic MT's finding their tables cold as well as their schedule now empty.

you just know that business is going to fall victim to a bust.
sorry long post